Glock 43…I’m going to just leave this here

glock43Finally. After years and years of hints, teases, and the release of the red-headed step-child none of us asked for, Glock has a single-stack 9mm. The single-stack we actually wanted. A proper, 9x19mm rather than the 9mm short.

We will make every effort to get one into our hands and tested as soon as they become available. While we’re excited to see the gun enter the market, I promise, we won’t be “fan boys” who give it a glowing review just because it’s a Glock. If it fails, it fails. We’ll tell you what works for us and what doesn’t. But, we do hope, that like nearly every other Glock, it will work with boring monotony.


Word is, Glock is teasing us…Again. says Glock may be teasing about a new single-stack pistol. We at GOTR mentioned more than a year ago, that Glock specifically told us there was a 9mm single-stack coming but, wouldn’t say when they might release it. We all expected it might be released in time for SHOT Show but, that didn’t happen.

Instead, we learned the much anticipated Glock “40” would be a “long-slide” like the Glock 17L and 24 models that came before. The Glock 40 is also the first of the new Modular Optic System (MOS), optics ready models that will compete with Smith & Wesson’s, Pro Series C.O.R.E. pistols. Not an unwelcome addition to the Glock line-up but, the concealed carry market is ripe for Glock to present their own answer for Smith & Wesson’s highly successful M&P Shield if Glock’s own 42 is any indicator.


Oorah! Marine Corps authorizes Glocks!

In a Marine Corps first, the service recently added a Glock pistol to its list of authorized individual weapons, optics and modular attachments.

via Glock pistols approved for special operations Marines.

You read that right. The United States Marine Corps has just approved Glocks! Specifically the Glock 19! But to be clear, it’s not a Corps-wide edict. This is only for personnel assigned to Marine Corps Special Operations Command and will carry a non-Marine inventory number because it is a U.S. Special Operations Command (USSOC) asset.

You can read more at the Marine Times website. It is an interesting development given some of the controversy surrounding the USMC’s purchase of new Colt 1911s for Force Recon and MARSOC personnel a few years back. I’m pretty sure R. Lee Ermey, aka “The Gunny” approves!


Interesting new Glock optics mount from ALG Defense


Larry Vickers posted this on FB. He says it was developed per SOF request. Personally, it’s hard to imagine anyone using a dedicated optically sight pistol outside the IPSC/USPSA or other competitive shooting environments. Doesn’t mean it can’t happen. After all, the Army is using Aimpoint optics as the only sight on many M4s and we so those in IPSC for years before the military adopted them.

Correction: The rail shows above is in fact from ALG Defense (it was previously reported as being a Geissele product). I couldn’t see the ALG Insignia on my phone when I posted the photo yesterday based on Vicker’s announcement. I still think this is more game gear than anything else. Any holster would have to be specific to this rail and knowing what it costs some manufacturers to tool up for a new gun (as much as $20,000), I just don’t see anyone other than ALG Defense themselves or a smaller custom shop creating a rig for guns configured with this rail mounted.


Thoughts on the new G42, Glock’s new, red-headed stepchild…

Glock42003It’s the kid nearly everyone would pick last for their team. No one asked for it. We were all surprised when it showed up. And as much as we want to stomp on it’s throat, give it a fatal super-wedgie, and drown it with Drano, we have to admit, we actually kinda like it.

Jeff has shot it. Now I’ve shot it. Lots of our friends have shot it. And nearly everyone comes away from the experience surprisingly happy. Jeff reports that Glock promises 9x19mm and 40-caliber versions in the not too distant future. The reason the .380 was release first? Because no one would buy it if released after the 9mm/40 variant. Glock sales people can say anything but, some how that logic almost works. Time will tell.

What we can tell you is that this is a gun well suited to people with small hands. This is the slimmest/smallest gun Glock has ever built. Glock sales folks tell us this is a gun meant to capture female shooters.  There are a lot of guns marketed toward women, chambered in .380, so that isn’t a completely absurd assertion. And the fact is, the Glock fan boys will buy it just to be the first kid on the block to have it. There are Internet (errornet) reports of people paying $100+ premiums just to be the first in line to get one to slip into their pocket.

20140121_192818-1How big is it compared to the M&P Shield? Well, it is nearly a full half-inch shorter in height. It is also 1/8th inch shorter in overall length but, within a millimeter of the Shield’s overall width. The latter measurements make sense given the fact .380 and the longer 9x19mm cartridge are the same bullet diameter with .380 having a case length only 2mm shorter. Some “guesstimated” that migrating this gun to 9mm/40 could be done with a simple conversion kit. They are wrong.  The length of the grip/magazine well from front to rear is too short to handle the longer overall cartridge lengths of those rounds.  While we had the G42 in our little paws, we slipped a 124gr, 9x19mm round into the magazine and found the magazine was easily 4-5mm short of handling the longer cartridge and there simply isn’t an extra 4-5mm in the magazine well. So if there is a 9mm/40 version coming, it will be a slightly larger gun…Possibly as large as the M&P Shield or at least Kahr’s PM9.

At the end of the day, this is a Glock in look and feel, just miniaturized. It likely will find its way into a bunch of pockets in short order. None of us have had a chance to put more than a total of perhaps 300 rounds through at least two different copies of this gun among everyone in studio so we can’t speak on its long term reliability.  The trigger certainly feels like a normal 5.5lb factory trigger and travel is still just under a half-inch so it is very much a Glock in that regard.  Glock promises typical Glock durabilty and reliability so this is allegedly a gun meant to be shot regularly. Hopefully that really does pan out as durability and reliability will be a critical.  Anyone who carries this gun needs to train with it because in spite of the very Glock-like trigger, it’s not the same shooting experience as one might have with other Glocks.

manhandg42I found that my support hand thumb, using my normal grip, extends nearly a half-inch past the muzzle. Is that a big deal? Well other than looking funny in pictures, the usual answer is actually “no,” given the chamber pressures associated with the gun. Still, big hands like mine tend to wrap up and around the slide enough that it is possible to clamp down only to find your hands impeding the slide.  This is true of nearly all small guns but, especially true of a generation of sub-compact 9mm and smaller pistols meant to be pocket guns. Not a deal breaker but, something of which shooters should be aware.

Not having spent much time with the gun, I’m a little cautious to jump on the bandwagon of telling everyone to rush out and buy it.  That said, my experience with the gun so far has been positive and I think it’s worth checking out for those with smaller hands or looking for a deep concealment option.  I’ll probably end up with one in my safe just as something to let people try out of curiosity or help them find a gun when everything else seems too big. Part of my hesitation here is the cost and availability of .380 which, in recent years, hasn’t been impressive and shockingly, has been at least as expensive as 9x19mm if not more.  It is also a rather anemic cartridge compared to 9x19mm with fewer good options for defensive ammunition, almost none of which can meet FBI requirements using their testing protocols.  While I sure has hell wouldn’t want to get shot with a .380 but, I’m not excited about depending on its ability to work in anything but absolutely perfect conditions. Your mileage may vary.