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From the police “WTF are we supposed to do?” files…Open Carry rights versus reasonable police response.

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http://lawenforcementtoday.com/2013/08/06/another-aurora-prevented-by-flint-michigan-police%E2%80%99s-adept-action/

“On Tuesday, July 30, 2013, police were called to the Trillium Theater in Grand Blanc Township (Michigan) on a report of a man wearing a bulletproof vest (BPV) and in possession of a gun was in the theatre. Cassidy Delavergne was found wearing a BPV and in possession of a gun as he sat among theatre goers. Delavergne was held for a mental examination after his arrest.

 

The police located Delavergne as he was watching a movie. Delavergne did not outwardly threaten any of the movie goers. The oddity of an armed individual wearing a BPV among a crowd of people required a quick and prudent police response to circumvent a potential. As the police approached Delavergne, he identified himself to be a federal agent and produced a fake CIA ID badge.

 

Delavergne was taken into custody without incident. He was in possession of a 9 mm semi-automatic firearm and 34 rounds of ammunition. This led to a search of Delavergne’s car, where an additional 111 rounds of ammunition was confiscated.

 

Of greatest concern is that Delavergne is licensed as a Michigan concealed carrier. His arrest is based solely on a federal offense of possessing fraudulent government identification. Charges were not filed against Delavergne for wearing a BPV when he was considered armed and dangerous. Once processed, Delavergne was released on a bond.”

Now, this can be viewed as either A) a tragedy prevented, or Nazi Thug Cops harassing a man who has committed no crime and is exercising his rights.

Well, what do you you folks think? Should cops have responded? Should they have left him alone until he acted out? No crime had been committed when they responded. So, should they have even responded at all? (Remember, the ONLY crime committed was providing false ID, which only occurred after the police response.)

This is the problem I have expressed on the air about folks who simply want to “prove their point” about gun rights. Every fool that walks around with his gun displayed for the SOLE PURPOSE of filming the inevitable police response is clouding the future police response to someone who may very well be an active shooter about to begin. I can only assume that the suspect in this story exposed his pistol for all to see, otherwise, how would they have know to call the police? Unless Michigan is open carry friendly, which I do not know off the top of my head…

In Texas, is it legal to own/wear body armor? In most instances, yes. Is it legal to carry your pistol? With a valid CHL, yes. Is it legal to carry your rifle around? In most cases, yes.

But know that the police will probably be called if someone sees a gun, and the police will respond, and the police will probably treat you as a potential threat because they can not read your mind. They only know there is a “man with a gun” call being dropped. If they say, “well, carrying a gun around IS perfectly legal” and slowly respond, and it turns out to be an active shooter, lives are lost. If they respond fast and treat you as a potential threat, the worst that usually happens is bruised egos and the gun owner sues the cops… You could either end up with another Aurora Theater tragedy or another Mark Worley / CJ Grisham type incident. I wish cops were perfect. I wish cops could predict who is harmless and who is harmful. But we can’t. Should cops be polite and professional when confronting armed folks? Depends on the situation.

I know everyone has rights. I am pro second amendment, pro CHL, pro standard capacity magazines, pro AR rifles, pro ordering ammo online, pro gun in general and pro self defense. I just ask folks to look at the “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” situation you place the police into by walking around in some type of open carry. You have the right to do so, just be aware of what actions may result.

You tell us… Did the Michigan police handle this properly? Was a tragedy averted? Or, were this man’s rights violated?

-Jason

Wonder how the politicians will explain it if Chicago’s crime rate goes down?

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Chicago prepares for new concealed carry gun law – Yahoo! News.

Predictably, the anti-gunners are screaming there will be blood in the streets as Illinois Gov. Pat Quinn decides whether or not to sign the bill that ends the last concealed carry ban in the country.  News flash folks, you already have blood in the streets! Chicago is among the most violent cities in the country and has been since the Prohibition Era. Like Washington D.C. before them, Chicago and most of its surrounding communities enacted bans on handguns and most modern long arms beginning in 1982.  It is well known that you must have a valid Firearm Owner IDentification (FOID) card just to buy ammunition in the state of Illinois. One must pass a background check to get said FOID card.  So even with all of these measures in place, it would seem that denying law abiding citizens the right to own guns has done little to help.

-Gary

Kelly Dwyer’s liberal bias shines through in what should be a simple report of a crime

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A shooter kills a would-be robber in self-defense while waiting in line to buy LeBron James’ signature shoes…

The headline almost says it all.  Unfortunately; the author, Kelly Dwyer, couldn’t leave it at that and exemplifies everything that is wrong with the mainstream media and a clear push to drive an agenda other than simply relaying the facts.  Dwyer opens his article with the following statement, “Greedy shoe companies making select sneakers needlessly exclusive paired together with consumer exuberance, desperation, and American gun culture on Saturday long enough to cost one would-be alleged robber his life.”

According to witnesses, the decedent was more than just a pick-pocket.  He was actually trying to rob several store patrons as they waited in line.  It is not mentioned in any of the articles I’ve found relating to this story but, it appears the shooter in this case was among those the decedent tried to rob. The shooter in turn, shot the decedent.  How that turns into an indictment of guns and corporate greed as the primary factors leading to the decedent being shot is beyond me and should be beyond the realm of logic of any reasonable person…Unless you’re Kelly Dwyer or some other “journalist” with a bone to pick against any company earning an honest profit on the goods they sell or of course, the current great evil of the world, guns.

-Gary

Commentary on registration and confiscation by John Farnam

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Defacto results:

In NY yesterday the NYSP seized privately-owned guns and the state pistol
permit, all legally owned, of a law-abiding state resident. He was not
charged with anything.

The NYSP, shortly afterward, sheepishly admitted it was all a “mistake!”
They had foolishly acted on little more that an unsubstantiated rumor.

Now, at great personal expense, the owner is trying to get his property and
rights reinstated.

The poorly-written state law (“SAFE Act,” hurriedly passed in the middle
of the night) states that anyone “… likely to engage in conduct that would
result in serious harm to self or others” loses his rights. “Likely,”
according to whom? What does that mean? Of course, no one read any of it
before they voted!

In our Country, “due diligence” is supposed to be applied before one loses
his rights, liberty, or property to the state. Some are apparently
interpreting this new law to mean that no species of due diligence need be
applied at all!

Lessons:

1) Registration of privately-owned guns, always touted as “harmless,”
never helps the law-abiding citizen, in any way.

2) Once your legally-owned guns are unlawfully impounded, they will never
be voluntarily returned to you, even when it is pointed out that the “mistake
” was entirely the state’s. No bureaucrat will ever be charged, nor even
disciplined, for the error. You’ll have to get a court order, at your
expense. Even then, the process may take months, even years, and you’ll be
defenseless in the interim.

3) Leftist/liberal politicians are looking for any excuse to forcibly
confiscate privately-owned guns, while simultaneously making the process of
legally obtaining guns so onerous that most will be discouraged from even
trying. Their goal is to make gun-owners such a minuscule minority, that the
rest of our rights can then be trampled with scant political risk.

4) The goal of leftists is universal confiscation of privately-owned guns.
It always has been! “Registration” is just a necessary intermediate
step. “Enforced-helplessness” is difficult to impose on armed citizens!

“When you disarm the people, you commence to offend them and show that you
distrust them, either through cowardice or lack of confidence, and both of
these opinions generate hatred.”

Niccolo Machiavelli, From “The Art of War,” 1520

Just the right amount of arrogance, ignorance, and stupidity…

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Diana DeGette displays the same sort of arrogance, ignorance, and stupidity toward a concerned citizen that she would attribute to Todd Akin with regard to rape.

That she displays such idiocy should not be a surprise.  She is, after all, a politician.  Worse, she’s a liberal Democrat who lives down to their reputation in this video. She not only completely dismisses her constituent’s concerns about self-defense, she mocks him saying,  “Good news for you. You live in Denver. The DPD would be there in minutes.”  But then she goes on to say, “you’d probably be dead anyway.”  This is the true face of liberal Democrats when it comes to the issue of your right to defend yourself.  She couldn’t have said it better if she were Marie Antoinette.  Of course, at the same meeting, she goes on to demonstrate her complete ignorance on firearms with regard to the efficacy of magazine bans.

These are the kinds of people dictating laws and policies with regard to firearms…As if Joe Biden’s own stupidity and ignorance wasn’t enough. What’s worse? The media is complicit and in many cases, just as ignorant. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, we are in a war. We cannot pat ourselves on the back for every little battle. There is an outright cultural war going on right now and it’s not really about guns, drugs, religion, or race. It’s about control, period.

-Gary