It’s not the tool, it’s the person using it…Woman arrested in deaths of eight children, including 7 of her own

Police haven’t said how the children died. But Asnicar said they’re examining several knives in the home that may have been the weapon used to kill the children.

via Australian woman arrested in deaths of 8 children | abc13.com.

Our hearts and prayers are with these children and their families. This sort of thing should never happen. But, even in a country where guns are all but banned, evil found a way and guns weren’t involved. It looks as if ordinary household knives were involved. Of course, countries like Britain would and have reacted to heinous crimes like this with calls to bans on everything short of a butter knife. Let’s hope the Australians don’t follow suit.

-GM

More info on theater shooting

Sheriff’s Detective Allen Proctor wrote that Reeves spoke to Oulson during the movie previews, then got up and informed management.

When Reeves returned to his seat “additional words were exchanged” and Oulson threw a bag of popcorn at Reeves, the report said.

After officers read him his rights, Reeves told the detective that Oulson struck him in the face with an unknown object, and that’s when he removed a .380 caliber gun from his pants pocket. The report said Reeves fired the gun and struck Oulson once in the chest and that he “was in fear of being attacked.”

Judge Lynn Tepper said she found the evidence significant enough to warrant the no bond order.

via Details emerge on retired officer involved in theater shooting.

Our man on the beat, Jason, says he’s hearing from a reliable source that “the old man went and got the manager of the theater after the initial confrontation. Manager and old man confront texter, texter throws popcorn bucket in old mans face and becomes aggressive. Old man draws, and the gun is grabbed, possibly by the wife, possibly by the victim. Struggle over gun and gun goes bang…”

I agree with Jason’s assessment on Facebook that it seems odd that a 20+ year police veteran would shoot someone for simply throwing popcorn or “an unknown object” at him. It would seem there has to be more to the story. If there really was a struggle over the gun, that’s would go a long way toward filling in some holes. However, there’s a whole question of whether or not a gun should have been introduced into this discussion in the first place. That’s not an argument against carrying a gun. However, it is a question of whether or not producing said gun as a threat was justified.

Older retiree facing a younger, stronger, man is an argument that there is a disparity of force but, that isn’t necessarily justification for producing a firearm. Verbal threats alone are not justification for the threat of deadly force (i.e. drawing a firearm).  If you escalated things without justification and that turned into a fight over the gun, it may foul any claim of self-defense. This is a case to watch as their are obvious implications for all of us who choose to go armed.

-GM

Texting, hazardous to your health in more ways that one…

WESLEY CHAPEL (FOX 13) –

A moviegoer lost his life inside a Pasco County theater Monday afternoon after a dispute over texting with a retired police officer.

According to the sheriff’s office, the dispute happened before the 1:20 showing of ‘Lone Survivor’ had even gotten underway at the Cobb CineBistro at Grove 16 complex on Wesley Grove Blvd.

Investigators say two couples had gotten into an argument over noise.

“The victim was on his cell phone; he was texting. We believe he was making some kind of noise. This noise led to an altercation between the suspect and the victim,” Sheriff Chris Nocco explained.

via Man killed after dispute over texting in theater – FOX 13 News.

The fact this happened in Florida will again lead to liberal media bringing the “Stand Your Ground” law into the discussion even though it really has nothing to do with this incident. The shooter in this case is someone who should know/understand use of force better than most. If he can’t articulate a reasonable belief of an imminent threat of bodily harm to himself or someone else, a jury will decide his fate. For the time being, 71-year-old, Curtis Reeves, a retired Tampa police officer, has been arrested and charged with second-degree murder. Unfortunately, no matter what happens, the lives of those involved will never be the same and a child has lost her father.

-GM

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